Thursday, November 19, 2009
Asian Cup flops
So we approach the end of another Asian Cup qualifying round and how much closer are South ast Asian nations to qualifying? In 2007 thanks to some political compromise there were four countries in Asia's flagship national team competition; Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam. For 2011 in Qatar they may be just one. Singapore or Thailand.
Indonesia are as good as out. Malaysia don't have any points (Malaysia are pointless?!). The Thais can't score, three in four games, Singapore got thumped in Iran, Vietnam slipped up in the last minute against Syria. Not a rosy report card at all, is it?
The region's best effort in the Asian up came in 1968 when Myanmar was known as Burma and they finished second to Iran. South Vietnam (eh?) have twice appeared in the semi finals as have Cambodia (!) and Thailand. Success has been hard to find.
Below is a record of south east Asian nations in the Asian Cup. From 1972 positions refer to final place in group stage. Further detail here
2004 - China
Indonesia 3 1 0 3 3-9 3 finished 3rd
Thailand 3 0 0 3 1-9 0 finished 4th
2000 - Lebanon
Thailand 3 0 2 1 2-4 2 finished 3rd
Indonesia 3 0 1 2 0-7 1 finished 4th
1996 - Japan
Indonesia 3 0 1 2 4- 8 1 finished 4th
Thailand 3 0 0 3 2-13 0 finished 4th
1992 - Japan
Thailand 3 0 2 1 1-5 2
1988 - Qatar No nation qualified
1984 - Singapore
Singapore 4 1 1 2 3- 4 3 finished 4th
1980 - Kuwait
Malaysia 4 1 2 1 5- 5 4 finished 3rd
1976 - Iran
Malaysia 2 0 1 1 1- 3 1 finished 3rd
1972 - Thailand
Thailand 2 0 1 1 3- 4 1 finsihed 3rd after beating Cambodia in 3/4th place play off on penalties
Cambodia 2 1 0 1 5- 4 2 finished 4th after losing to Thailand
1968 - Iran
Burma 4 2 1 1 5- 4 5 finished runners up
1964 - Israel No nation qualified
1960 - South Korea
South Vietnam 3 0 0 3 3-13 0 finished 4th
1956 - Hong Kong
South Vietnam 3 0 1 2 6- 9 1 finished 4th
Indonesia are as good as out. Malaysia don't have any points (Malaysia are pointless?!). The Thais can't score, three in four games, Singapore got thumped in Iran, Vietnam slipped up in the last minute against Syria. Not a rosy report card at all, is it?
The region's best effort in the Asian up came in 1968 when Myanmar was known as Burma and they finished second to Iran. South Vietnam (eh?) have twice appeared in the semi finals as have Cambodia (!) and Thailand. Success has been hard to find.
Below is a record of south east Asian nations in the Asian Cup. From 1972 positions refer to final place in group stage. Further detail here
2004 - China
Indonesia 3 1 0 3 3-9 3 finished 3rd
Thailand 3 0 0 3 1-9 0 finished 4th
2000 - Lebanon
Thailand 3 0 2 1 2-4 2 finished 3rd
Indonesia 3 0 1 2 0-7 1 finished 4th
1996 - Japan
Indonesia 3 0 1 2 4- 8 1 finished 4th
Thailand 3 0 0 3 2-13 0 finished 4th
1992 - Japan
Thailand 3 0 2 1 1-5 2
1988 - Qatar No nation qualified
1984 - Singapore
Singapore 4 1 1 2 3- 4 3 finished 4th
1980 - Kuwait
Malaysia 4 1 2 1 5- 5 4 finished 3rd
1976 - Iran
Malaysia 2 0 1 1 1- 3 1 finished 3rd
1972 - Thailand
Thailand 2 0 1 1 3- 4 1 finsihed 3rd after beating Cambodia in 3/4th place play off on penalties
Cambodia 2 1 0 1 5- 4 2 finished 4th after losing to Thailand
1968 - Iran
Burma 4 2 1 1 5- 4 5 finished runners up
1964 - Israel No nation qualified
1960 - South Korea
South Vietnam 3 0 0 3 3-13 0 finished 4th
1956 - Hong Kong
South Vietnam 3 0 1 2 6- 9 1 finished 4th
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Looking at the qualifying grps this time arnd show ACQ is getting tougher as AFC give 2 spots to AFC Challenge Cup & rid almost all the weaker teams there
Indonesia, who hve make it to last 3 Asian Cup Finals since it expansion to 16 teams, got Aussies & 2 Arab teams - Oman & Kuwait
Malaysia gt Uzb & UAE while Vietnam gt Syria, China & Lebanon
ASEAN will suffer for a while from now on but in the long term, it good as we hve no place to hide & every games in ACQ & WCQ will be tough so no more Nepal or Maldives etc for us to makan
It is a positive or a negative is up to each FAs on hw they wnt to develop to take on the new tough ACQ & WCQ era
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Indonesia, who hve make it to last 3 Asian Cup Finals since it expansion to 16 teams, got Aussies & 2 Arab teams - Oman & Kuwait
Malaysia gt Uzb & UAE while Vietnam gt Syria, China & Lebanon
ASEAN will suffer for a while from now on but in the long term, it good as we hve no place to hide & every games in ACQ & WCQ will be tough so no more Nepal or Maldives etc for us to makan
It is a positive or a negative is up to each FAs on hw they wnt to develop to take on the new tough ACQ & WCQ era
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